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Truth-Epilog (How do u feel about Crooked Is move not to have a forum or site?)
#11
I just want to add this is a great thread top to bottom.  Obviously a lot of us had something to say about the end of DOC, and this thread is a great way to get it out.  Now it's time to start the Bossboard era!!
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#12
When you guys said like D.O.C. is like gone forever, do you mean like gone forever like all the data and material and post and users all the goodies like erased? is it not just offline and the server is locked somewhere where no one can visit it? i hope thats not true, if it that sucks theirs really no goin back then huh.

The Mods and peter,kay did such a great job on that site and plus the fans participation and stuff when Evolution of BOSS came out, thats when i started jumping on other forums which was fun to just to be able to helping

, I remember you guys where asking for feed back on how to make the site better, you guys where like launching dynasty week or somethingwith new shit. You guys were gonna get news modorators, and just a bunch of more features.  alll gone.

and the archives the whole lot of crooked i interviews, I used to spend like hours just reading through em, and when crooked I made lik 4 Posts n D.O.C. about that Kurupt issue and supporting the hiphop summit stuff.

ahh bollocks.
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#13
(01-13-2009, 12:24 PM)Snake Eyez link Wrote: Personally, I don't understand it.  Is there ever a reason why you would not want a site like that? One which supported and provided so much?  

Especially in the absence of an official REAL and PROFESSIONALLY run site... when you're claiming to be the king of the internet?

The amount of work, time, and the collection of material.. there were archives of lyrics, collections of songs from his entire catalogue, videos, transcripts, and updates from not only people who are connected... but just fans and DJs who support him.  These are the same people trying to help his exposure.. the same ones who were riding with Hip-Hop Weekly..

I feel bad for the guys who ran the DOC site because they cared a lot about their content and did it right... and did it out of their own pocket.  That's maybe the most discouraging part to me.

excellent post,

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#14
I will say this much...  It's more expensive to maintain a good web presence then people realize.  That being said, only an idiot thinks it's not important to have one in this day & age.

Crooked I is a phenomenal rapper but he doesn't belong behind a desk making business decisions.  That's painfully obvious.
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#15
(01-14-2009, 04:03 AM)ITS OFFICIAL link Wrote: Crooked I is a phenomenal rapper but he doesn't belong behind a desk making business decisions.  That's painfully obvious.

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Ive been thinking that for a long time now... Anyone who has money and influence can become a boss but being a good business man is something else altogether and Crooked has still got alot to learn...

I respect Crooked as a great rapper but ive definitely lost alot of respect for his character and integrity has a person...

Part of the reason i used to rep Crooked was because he used to keep in touch and show love to his fans (Shoutin D.O.C members names out on Hip Hop Weeklys & exclusive D.O.C interviews) but now its almost seems like he thinks hes too big now and dont need the D.O.C anymore!

I remember Crooked saying in a lyric "I aint shit without my fans" so why then has he decided to shit on all his loyal fans by basically saying "Thanx for all your help guys but I dont really need y'all anymore"?

I aint hating on Crooked but he needs to recognise that without the D.O.C he wouldnt even be where he is now and show some love and respect!

Sad thing is he probably aint even gona read any off our comments or put out a real message or interview to respond to all the D.O.C fans apologising or just speaking on his reasons for dropping the site.

One question i would like to ask is: If Crooked is a BOSS and a Baller then
why the hell cant dude even afford to pay somewebsite bills to support the community who have been supporting and carrying his ass for the last 5+ years ???
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#16
(01-14-2009, 09:42 AM)Arkitek link Wrote: [quote author=ITS OFFICIAL link=topic=187.msg768#msg768 date=1231920220]

Crooked I is a phenomenal rapper but he doesn't belong behind a desk making business decisions.  That's painfully obvious.

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Ive been thinking that for a long time now... Anyone who has money and influence can become a boss but being a good business man is something else altogether and Crooked has still got alot to learn...

I respect Crooked as a great rapper but ive definitely lost alot of respect for his character and integrity has a person...

Part of the reason i used to rep Crooked was because he used to keep in touch and show love to his fans (Shoutin D.O.C members names out on Hip Hop Weeklys & exclusive D.O.C interviews) but now its almost seems like he thinks hes too big now and dont need the D.O.C anymore!

I remember Crooked saying in a lyric "I aint shit without my fans" so why then has he decided to shit on all his loyal fans by basically saying "Thanx for all your help guys but I dont really need y'all anymore"?

I aint hating on Crooked but he needs to recognise that without the D.O.C he wouldnt even be where he is now and show some love and respect!

Sad thing is he probably aint even gona read any off our comments or put out a real message or interview to respond to all the D.O.C fans apologising or just speaking on his reasons for dropping the site.

One question i would like to ask is: If Crooked is a BOSS and a Baller then
why the hell cant dude even afford to pay somewebsite bills to support the community who have been supporting and carrying his ass for the last 5+ years ???
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Another great post that deserves +1 propz!
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#17
I was bitter at first too.  I don't think it's that Crook doesn't need a website/forum.  I think Crook might think he can't be as closely associated with a website/forum as he was with DEG.  A web presence is needed to be succesful.  But Crook probably felt he was being looked at as an internet rapper and didn't want to be pidgeon holed.  

I mean as huge as that guy is he should have been signed.  I don't think it's a big deal if there's a fan forum like this one that is blatantly unofficial and fan run.  I mean even Wizeguy's porn forum had unofficial written all over it (and now directs here anyway).  

I don't think Crook is trying to slight fans, and I think this might be a good decision as long as this fan forum continues to grow.  I mean this guy shouted us out for 52 weeks straight and is gearing up to do it for another 52 all while having more features and collabos in 2009 than he's had in the entire 5 years I've been a fan.  

I heard Crook TWICE on XM yesterday.  Once on Shade and once on Hip Hop Nation.  He's got this Bishop thing, this Budden thing, he's on Lil Flip's shit - I just think this nigga is grinding and as long as we do our part he's gonna acheive something special.  If you still feel Crook then stick around and grind it out COB for life style.

If you really feel fucked over and maybe you don't get into his music anymore than that sucks.  I think he's doing more now than he's ever done before and being taken a bit more seriously by the industry.
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#18
It sux that dynastyentgroup is closed and i felt like everybody here.

crooked will never give us boss for free,cause he will go true koch with that shit...i know he said that in the go hard freestyle,remember 1 year ago??? hhw1; this year m droppin boss im promise.A MAN THAT DOESN´T TAKE HIS WORDS!!!

and now hhw2 will come and we gonna not see an crook album again.
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#19
(01-14-2009, 04:50 PM)ferhat link Wrote: It sux that dynastyentgroup is closed and i felt like everybody here.

crooked will never give us boss for free,cause he will go true koch with that shit...i know he said that in the go hard freestyle,remember 1 year ago??? hhw1; this year m droppin boss im promise.A MAN THAT DOESN´T TAKE HIS WORDS!!!

and now hhw2 will come and we gonna not see an crook album again.

I'm not so sure, but I hear what your saying. I think the problem is that if Crook has been pitching BOSS to labels they are saying, "You know we like it, but the content is so old. We want you to record something new with newer acts and producers." I'm wondering if that's the situation.

If I were him, I'd release BOSS on his iTunes/Amazon deal as a digital download and label it a "Street Album" or "Digital Release", that way it doesn't OFFICIALLY count as his major debut, but also grabs attention and makes dollars.
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#20
(01-14-2009, 04:59 PM)EFFeX link Wrote: [quote author=ferhat link=topic=187.msg776#msg776 date=1231966216]
It sux that dynastyentgroup is closed and i felt like everybody here.

crooked will never give us boss for free,cause he will go true koch with that shit...i know he said that in the go hard freestyle,remember 1 year ago??? hhw1; this year m droppin boss im promise.A MAN THAT DOESN´T TAKE HIS WORDS!!!

and now hhw2 will come and we gonna not see an crook album again.

I'm not so sure, but I hear what your saying. I think the problem is that if Crook has been pitching BOSS to labels they are saying, "You know we like it, but the content is so old. We want you to record something new with newer acts and producers." I'm wondering if that's the situation.

If I were him, I'd release BOSS on his iTunes/Amazon deal as a digital download and label it a "Street Album" or "Digital Release", that way it doesn't OFFICIALLY count as his major debut, but also grabs attention and makes dollars.
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yeah or i-tunes.
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